Clichy dropped for the new season?
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Today’s topic is:
Should the occasionally shaky Clichy be dropped for either Traore or Gibbs?
With Armand Traore (definitely more capable physically and more adventurous in attack) impressing against Barnet yesterday while Kieran Gibbs remains a promising prospect, should Gael Clichy (often a suspect in defense last season) be dropped for one of the young duo?
He often appears naive when he has the ball in our area and takes too long to decide which teammate to pass it to, so much that he occasionally gets caught by the opposition’s attacker.
He also has a habit of backing off the opposing winger when that player is about to cross the ball (Mendy vs him in 3-1 Hull match, 2009).
And it’s okay if he’s caught sometimes, because all fullbacks are not perfect defensively. But Clichy just doesn’t make up for his average defending in attack at all. He NEVER dribbles into the penalty box or take on defenders and always races to the byline and sends in a blank cross.
Even Silvestre, when he played at LB in the recent home game against Wolves, took on the opposition’s defenders in the box and sent in a dangerous ball. Traore does that (particularly because he has experience in playing as an LM at Pompey) and so does Gibbs.
Yes, he used to be great from 2006-2008 when he defended with his athleticism but these days, he’s too relaxed and is not as attentive as he used to be.
Clichy has become an average, naive defender at left-back and can’t even make up for it in attack.
And remember this…
* Goal conceded at Man. City in 3-1 win in 2008
* Penalty conceded at Birmingham in 2-2 draw in 2008
* Own goal vs Villa at Emirates in 2008
* Goal conceded to United (Nani) in 2010 at Emirates
that was poor!!!!
nope
yes it is true.he keeps repeating the same mistakes even he did it against southafrica in the worldcup.clichy is an average player and he was part of our trophyless campaigns i hope wenger recognizes this
No.
nope..no way..give him this season..he was injured..if he regains fitness and a bit of confidence he will be fine, we forget he is still young and will only improve and learn from his mistakes
what??
hell no..
Unless clichy displays lack of form, I would rather him against an array of tricky wingers than the younger Duo.
However I feel the boss should not hesitate to give the young uns a run every so often to keep clichy on his toes..
no. gibbs is the future tho
You do realise that we’re not playing Barnet every week in the season right?
No.
Gibbs is a much better defender than Clichy right now. Clichy might just have the edge going forward, but he’s not exactly the best crosser of the ball in the world… Clichy also seems to have a few match-throwing mistakes in him every season, so I’d have no problem dropping him for Gibbs for the first few games at least.
The only thing that Clichy has going for him is the memory of his outstanding first season. If he could get back to that level, I’d certainly put him as first choice, but he was nowhere near that last season.
No way.
Clichy did say that he didn;t play as well as he could last season because he was adjusting to the 433. The Fullbacks have to be very disciplined and aware of when to support the midfield and when to track back. By the end of last season you can tell the Clichy of old is coming back.
You don’t know that much about football do yer?
If individual mistakes is your case argument then every player who played for us last season deserves to be dropped.
Stick with playing FM & CM son..
F*ck off. What is nthis shit? And as for that dope Randy Osae??? Give me strength…
if gibbs didnt break his foot i think our left backs would be at war now for the starting place
Traore should be sold. He’s a Pompey player at best. Terrible how he allowed a Barnet played to waltz past behind him. Really schoolboy stuff.
Clichy starts, Gibbs bench, Botelho 3rd choice
Lennon gives him a hard time everytime,but he gives everyone (apart from cashley) a roasting.we should have got bale when he was going but he’s not fucking French is he.wenger out if we don’t win something this season as this year has to be the cut off point.
Wow, you’re clearly a SPUD fan. No arsenal fan would use two spuds player’s and a chelsea player in positive terms. Bore off back to shitehartelane or is there still a parade for finishing 4th going on?
Wtf!u don knw wat ur talkn about..ru a freak sent by the barca morons to unsettle our players..pranks like pique n puyol &da biscuits would think lyk u..hell NO!…Long live C22
Just saying we missed the boat with bale lads as for cashley he’s a cunt but a class left back but don’t dare say it what ever you do.
No .. we are lucky to have the service of one of the best left backs in the world in my opinion … he wll be back in form this season i think and he will show what he can do š
Dan grow up m8 you sound like your about 16 or mybe even 16 stone,is that why ur uhappy.
Ur nt gnna tlk lke tht 2me blud innit,i nife uz innit.
Learn how to spell and use complete words then we can talk about how old each other are.
Good like in your upcoming SATS.
hes a world classs left back, no is the answer ! just because players arent perfect , lose form or make mistakes doesnt meaan there shit:P silly post:P
Pass and move…you are clearly a spud fan Bale had about 4 good games last season and now he is better than what we have? What about the 26 rubbish ones
Ok than arsenals players a world class in every way and cheski,man u,spuds,city,liverpools are all shite.that why we only won 3 of 10 games vrs the teams around us.sick of the blind fuckers that hang on every word wenger says but as soon as the season starts I win get behind the
lads like everyone else but as I said we need to win something/anything THIS season
Pass and move we are clearly not as good as man u and chelsea yet but you shouldn’t fabricate lies to justify yourself p.s show me a game where clichy was totally destroyed by lennon
@pass u sure of ur loyalty?..or u got a loan 4rm da SPUDS?..put ur pants 2getha n see what the red&white army stands for…
no
No. Clichy is near enough world class
Gibbs looks the far better player and will take cashleys place at left back in 2 years time,as for Lennon I think evras a class apart at left back but Lennon has raped him again and again(even man u friends of mine say so)but some you can’t bring y/s to say it.this is clearly a young gunners site so there’s no point in debate with blowins.
When once upon a time,C.Ronaldo was rampant, with no defender able to check him dribbling past down the left flank,and who stopped him and made him change route? Yes, no other LB but Clichy,try to look back in your archive and stop this short term judgement. He must still carry injuries to have more off days last season. When physically fit,he is way ahead of Cashley Cole,remember?
Some of us are being pemature – surely it is the PRESEASON WORK etc… that will finally decie whoi in and who is out. Wait for it guys!!!
Clichy was superb in the 2nd half of last season and I think that was because he had shaken off his injury problems. He did have some worrying defensive lapses, but I think its naive to believe that gibbs and/or traore have overtaken him – although I believe both have the potential to do so in the future.
The form he showed at the back-end of last season was good as anyone. If clichy can continue that into this season and beyond, we really have a great player, if not, the youngsters are getting ready to step in. If gael does prove himself, I think gibbs and traore are more than capable of making it in different positions – gibbs could play CM for example.
no. 1 example – clichy was the only 1 playin with his heart against barcelona, hes probly in top 5 Lbs in the world.
My response to this fantasy question is an emphatic “no way”.While Clichy was not at his best last season,and neither was Sagna and a number of other players for that matter,he is still a very good player and our most experienced in that position.It is, however, a very healthy position for the club to be in,to have really promising youngsters like Gibbs and Traore as understudies.
I think if Gibbs hadn’t got injured he would have eclipsed Clichy in performance by now. Hopefully Keiron will be back to his best soon which is way better than Clichy’s best IMO. Traore has a long way to go, and will probably never be half as good as either of the 1st and 2nd choice left backs. But Clichy should be backup fo sho!
This post is pure thrash.Clichy is world class & i am very sure no winger will be excited to face him cos they know he’s usually a very hard opponent to come up against.He is definitely one i would consider for captain judging by his commitment to the club & standard of play.
Poor post Randy. Usually like your posts. You can do better than this
Clichy gets over- exposed by the lack of defensive cover on his side in midfield. Clichy ‘s anticipation and pace is a very important attacking asset, but the midfield needs to cover for him. Clichy would not be out of place in the Brazilian team- defending is not his strongest suite- but when fully fit he is a very important player.
We need clinche’s experience at the back. Don’t u remember how Gibbs fell apart against manure (CL semi).
I think ur debate should be on bentner!
I am really sorry to c Eduardo leave.
Clichy is a good defender,he is more experienced player,he played well against good clubs ,like last season he is the only player played well against barcilona
Hw quick we ar 2 4get hw outstandin a playa has been n can b just bcos of a couple of shoddy performances. Anyone who conceivd dis idea must b footballistically insane. Clichy is d next best LB in d premiership only second to Evra.
Hw quick we ar 2 4get hw outstandin a playa has been n can b just bcos of a couple of shoddy performances. Anyone who conceivd dis idea must b footballistically insane. FYI Clichy is d next best LB in d premiership second only to Evra.
Traore impressing against Barnet LOL? Are you blind man? He had a shocker.
Clichy>Gibbs>Traore.
Traore did well against Barnet did he? A good performance against a team of that quality doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. Let’s see how he fares against the top teams week in week out…
As for Gibbs being a better defender than Clichy, sorry, but I have to say that’s nonsense. He’s prone to shocking positional errors, leaving all sorts of gaps at the back on a pretty regular basis. Saying that, I’m sure he’ll come good eventually, he’s got years ahead of him
Clichy is still first choice for me. For a team that’s crying out for leaders and a bit of experience, he’s hard to beat
ur spot on any gooner who thinks clichy is an Arsenal class defender is clueless. How ever good our central defenders are they will always be compromised by the rubbish that is clichy and sagna. Arsene must realise this. The evidence is there to be seen but a big number of delude gooners have their heads buried in the sand. If we want trophies its time to wake up!
For all i know, Clichy is a good player and he should b given this season
It would be a shame to see him dropped but going by last season he had a hot and cold one and seemed slow off the mark at times.
How on earth can you drop clichy for two kids? Yeah gibbs is defo the future left back but with only a handfull of first team games how could we possibly challenge for titles with him? Even if clichy makes a few mistakes this season I guarantee gibbs or traore would make more if playing every game. Gibbs needs games and experience before he can make that position his. Then we can get rid of clichy!!!!
Clichy is a little bit better right now than gibbs but gibbs has much more to his game hence has much more potential!!
As we now have Chamakh where gonna need some good cross’s from the full backs and clichy can’t cross at all! So there is a case!
I say give them an even number of games each throughout the season and whoevers best is the main lb!
Every one who do no agree with AW is spuds f**k off i am a winner i want to win if all you like to suck up to AW go ahead
what r u talking about RANDY???????? that happened when he was rushed back from injury…after that he picked up his form and was the best player at barcelona remember??
sometimes red london comes up with the silliest of posts .
clichy is world class ,no doubt .
messi had to play central against us at nou camp coz of clichy .at the grove messi couldnt get pass clichy .
clichy has always stopped ronaldo and i have yet to see lennon give him a tough time .
he got it from nani and young the game before but he just came of an injury that time reember .hes brlliant and with the likes of rvp,chamakh and nikki b we ll truly see the quality of his crossing .
hes miles ahead of the other gunners though gibbs is amazing .
plzzz dont say stupid things like getting rid of clichy .hes the best
fyi-the penalty he conceded against birm wasnt one and he didnt fuck up against south africa .see the goal and think what he could have done from that position ,Nothing at all unless ur playing fifa
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Clichy was injured for chunks of last season.. and all the bad games came when coming back to fitness when he didnt have his edge..
the seasons b4 he has been fantastic… maybe not the best positionally but has the pace to recover…
For me he should be 1 of 1st on team sheet!
Feel sorry for Gibbs tho.. a great prospect.. but not at clichy level yet…
maybe a prem loan move? as have traore as clichy backup……