Arsenal 1-3 Bayern Munich
When Robin van Persie announced he would not sign a new contract last summer, he cited that it was because he felt the club’s ambitions did not match his.
Sure enough, after the slide from title contenders to fourth place contenders and two cups exits in a week, who can really argue the Dutchman’s point that the Gunners do not possess a hunger for success?
To be fair if Van Persie was wrong and Arsenal really did have serious aspirations to be amongst the elite of European football, you would have witnessed more guts from the board (from chairman to Wenger) off the pitch in strengthening the squad and more guts from the players on the pitch in giving their utmost effort.
But we have gotten neither and when you consider that even Galatasaray have bolstered their squad with Drogba and Sneijder despite being outsiders for the Champions League, you have to wonder how ambitious Arsenal are at all?
Is the club in it for the trophy or the profit?
The Match
Arsenal fell to a damaging 3-1 defeat in the first-leg of this round of 16 affair on Tuesday. So damaging was the result that the Gunners may have just been dumped out of the competition even before the return visit to Munich.
At this stage last year, Wenger’s men succumbed to a 4-0 thrashing in Milan. That was a deficit as good as impossible to overcome and today’s 3-1 defeat, with priceless away goals in Bayern’s favour, means this year’s mountain to climb is even higher than a season ago.
Then again there are miracles in football, and indeed one almost took place when AC Milan arrived at the Emirates to complete last year’s tie, but Bayern are different. The scenario this time is different.
An FA cup exit at the hands of Blackburn meant the build-up to this massive occasion had all gone wrong and after just seven minutes today, it continued to go wrong for the Gunners.
Muller lashed a cross into Arsenal’s area and the ball landed perfectly at the edge of the box for Roos who did not miss his volley as the visitors took a 1-0 lead.
It had not taken much for Arsenal’s critics to be proven right then, and despite a faint effort to respond, some dull defending from a Bayern corner saw Szcznesny drop the ball at the mouth of Arsenal’s goal for Muller to pounce home Bayern’s second.
Wenger’s men revised their response after going 2-0 behind and a more encouraging second-half display forced a goal from Podolski who took advantage of Neur’s mistake from an Arsenal corner to head the ball into a unguarded net.
The scenes at the Emirates were beginning to appear like shades of the 2-2 comeback against Barcelona in 2010, and seconds after coming on for Arsenal’s goalscorer, Olivier Giroud nearly delivered the equalizer, volleying Walcott’s cross right at Neur who knew little about the Frenchman’s powerful effort. Any other side of the goalkeeper and Arsenal would have been level.
But it went from looking to go level to looking down the barrel as far as Arsenal’s Champions Leagues hopes are concerned as a swift move on the right flank from Bayern was completed in comical fashion with Szczesny and Mario Mandzukic clashing in no man’s land to somehow deflect the ball into the net.
i dont understand how szczesny is a disgrace, where was the markings for all three goals. the problem with this team is that they don’t know how to deal with the basics especially when it comes to defending, they are very aweful
Szczesny is a very good keeper…fact the problem lies in the four defenders in front of him.
Merasacher is awful I’m sorry to say and that weak link causes the two good defenders always to be nervous and that pulls them out of position. The left back position is also weak. Get two strong replacements and a strong holding player in front of defence and the goal keeper will better protected and will make the vital saves he has done on many occasions.
Yes you could buy a new keeper to help with competition for the place but don’t do him down, his reactions are so fast but he no miricle maker when the are holes in the defence!
I hope that Arsene can see what I can see but sometimes you can be too close to a situation that you are blind to the obvious. Come on Arsene you can rebuild this team it only needs a few very good signings, act as soon as you can.
Szczesny could have done better with the header from the corner but it was hardly an easy ball to catch as it came at him fast.
The third goal was Sagna and Mandzukic – did you even watch the match?
You are a disgrace
looks like he’s going to run the team right into the buffers before he leaves
Bayern wage bill: £127 million
Arsenal wage bill: £143 million
I admire what Wenger has done for the club as much as any one else (besides Arsene himself probably), but he keeps making the same critical mistakes year after year…Do you know what the definition of insanity is?…keep doing the same things and expecting a different result.
Wenger is really lost and he is dragging the club down with his pride. Arsenal are a massively wealthy club, but have poorly managed their resources. The denial about the mistakes he makes over and over needs to end now if the club is going to move forward.
Arsenal have no money if u have 1m & buy a house 4 a million you r worth a million but u have no money
That very tired cliche – insanity is repeating the same things and expecting different results…..Einstein said that. A scientist. It was meant in a scientific sense i.e. repeating the same experiment under the same conditions. Nothing whatsoever to do with football, and if you would like to apply your tired cliche to Wenger, then he would have to re-sign the same players every year, and play the same starting line up against the same teams.
And even then, the results would be different because science is not football.
A very lazy and ignorantly used cliche.
Try much harder.
twat!!!
Actually that quote is from narcotics anonymous. There’s no evidence that Einstein even said that phrase. Maybe do some research before trying to look clever and throwing insults at others.
We are in more trouble than we know with a manager who no longer knows how to win trophies, but worse, a board who never has
Are you for real Szcze a disgrace put your dummy back in before you dribble out more crap we played like we have done most of the season very slow start and it was almost comfortable for them we were outclassed our lack of inteligence on the pitch told and leadership was in small supply. Plus apart from Jack and maybe walcott did Bayern seemed worried about any other players.
Either Wenger brings in an enforcer of a defensive midfielder, a right back (as Sagna is finished), an established goal scorer and also an experienced keeper, whilst also allowing Bould to do all of the defensive work, set pieces and team structure – OR – Wenger simply steps down or even up to the board as some kinda sporting director and lets a young fresh ruthless manager come in. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
So when did you last manage a top tier professional footbal club to be giving advice?
6.45 Wednesday morning, started watching the game, not a great deal of confidence in my side i must admit, sure enough 7 minutes into it they proved me right, 14 min. later i was a shattered person knowing that another hopeless adventure called Champions league was over.
I don’t want to point the finger at anyone, because enough of that is being done by English supporters, all i want to know is, how the hell have things turned this bad for us, and who’s responsible for all this, this includes from medico’s to the head master.
Some person or a group of them have to be accountable for all this, we as supporters deserve the right to know and demand answers.
I certainly can not watch these things unveil in front of my eyes week in week out, i certainly feel for the supporters that attend to every game, rain, hail, or shine and pay their memberships regardless.
If wenger does not die he aint leavin tha post.. On a second thought, why not relieve AW of his job n get tha current bayern coach since Pep will be takin over next season?.
You muppets wenger has always naive,why else do you thnk we have not won a european trophy
COZ UR S***
What do you expect from a kid,standing between the sticks? His errors are too numerous to count nor forgive.But we also have an old coach who thinks like a kid in Mr Wenger.
At last Euros,Szcznesy,lost his place in the team from a comical school boy error.In Arsenal,he countlessly commit these errors,but our socialist coach,who rewards mediocrity with exotic and lucrative contracts sees no evil. Where was Wenger while Julio Ceasar went to QPR? How much did he cost them.Everything about Arsenal has collapsed under 8years. Wenger please go.
Juilo turned down arsenal
Another sensationalist headline from you just to get hits. No wonder you need to do this because you talk rubbish like blaming Szczesny for the defeat. Fool.
I have been saying it for years, this kid is not ready for the big time. He is not a big team first choice. He is good no doubt and has the potential to be great, but he doesn’t have the intelligence yet. He doesn’t know how to distribute the ball, and seems to palm/parry the ball ball too much even when he should be collecting it.
AS A PASSIONET SPURS FAN IM TRULY LOVIN THE DEMIZE AND HUMILIATION OF DA GOONERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! COME ON U SPURRRSS!!!!
Learn to spell u Halfwit,Spurs have been in our shadow forever ,how many Prem titles have u won ?
WE WON MORE CUPS IN EUROPE… U GUYS ARE NOT VERY GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO WINNING THINGS IN EUROPE COZ U CHOKE UNLIKE US WHICH U WILL SEE TONITE MAKE SHURE U WATCH AND LEARN LOSER!!!
And if our “demise” spirals out of control and we become really bad we’ll end up playing like the Spuds………….we may even have to get a top class diver to bring our selfs onto the same level.
Truth is though it pains me to say the spuds are a better team than us at the moment and i am fearing the worst when we play them.
Bet you wish that diver was playing for you !
Wringer simply must go,his tactic has become obsolete.Arsenal must go for a new and young thinking cap!If WENGER stays,majority of the fans would go for trophy hunt elsewhere!Enough of the wringing!!!!!
It is no coincidence that AFC has not done shite since the Mad German retired. The defence doesn’t have confidence Sczesny and all the problems start from there. Just hope the experiment is over and Wenger will buy a front-line keeper in the summer. Sczesny will come good, but he needs competition and maturity.
The sad fact is that “The Arsenal” has been allowed to become a very small fish in the pool of European football when we shpould be counted amoungst the Powerhouses. It is so sad that my beloved Arsenal are just an Also-Ran in ALL competitions.
I would even add. We are a Laughing Stock!
YEP!
some players in afc don’t worth the club; the manager can’t cope for the reason(s) i don’t know & the board are faulty.
show the keeper the door not good enough! …he should be nowhere near the first team .exactly the same as almunia 1 great game 3 rubbish.somehow it took wenger 3 years to realise almunia was rubbish..lets pray it dosent take him that long this time
To be candid, Arsene wenger must be crazy and even the board, before the match i knew we are going to loose the match because the kind of good player bayern have we don’t have it. And there is open transfer window in January which wenger only buy who will not be useful in champions league for us. He must be crazy
I HAD £25 ON BYERN TO WIN SO TONITE I WILL BE ENJOYIN MY PIE AND MASH WITH NICE PINT OF STELLA AT MY LOCAL..CHEERS GOONERS!
Sincerely i am tired of this team, since i join this team i only see us winning just a trophy which is F.a cup. Hmmmm please let wenger go and sign who will spend cash and win trophy for us.
The thing is mate if your reason for “joining” a team is because you want to be associated with glory (just like a lot of young Arsenal fans). I think you should go and choose a different team. Genuine supporters will be pleased to see you leave. You see the clue is in the word “supporter” this is about “supporting” the team not massaging your ego by being able to tell your mates you support a winning team….that’s what Man U fans do. You should support a club because you love the club not because you want personal glory.
WE GOT BALE
WE GOT DEFOE
WE GOT DEMBELE
WE GOT HOLTBY
GOONERS GOT NO CHANCE. GOONERS AR SHITE AND WHEN WE BEAT DEM SOON GOONERS WILL BE OUTA SITE!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!! LAST NITE WAS VERY ENJOYABLE FOR ME.
DA WAY U WERE SHOWN UP U SHITTY BUNCH OF TOSSERS!
DA BALANCE OF POWER HAS WELL AND TRULY SWUNG TO DA LANE ME THINKS….!
“Me thinks” you’ll be able to say something a little more intelligent when you get into Key Stage 2 mate. You actually need some evidence to make claims like that not just a list of incredibly average footballers and the most prolific diver in European football……..
Look back 10yrs to now the evidence is there for all to see !
Wenger lost it right from his youth policy system. No matter how good you are you need to learn from someone older in the field but Wenger sold all the experience players for under 17 players. They came in though good but has nobody to learn from. The young lads in Man U and others are not better than the ones we have at arsenal but they player better because the have people like Giggs, Scholes they are learning from. Even learnt from Ronaldiho and Xavi from Pep Guadiola. How would you expect some one like Ramsey or Diaby and co to up their games when the player you planning to buy is a 17yr old boy. But assuming you go for an experience player, the young and lazy ones we become serious and will then up their games knowing fully well that somebody better is around. Wenger is a confused man and his stubbornness is killing the club slowly. The players have nobody they are looking up to because they are all learners except one or two among them.
How and why has this Arsenal team come to rely on “confidence” so much? They really DO lack belief. Watching them at the Grove last night was painful. We are just not good enough. Zonal marking was to blame for the second goal. Why persist with it? As a staunch supporter of Wenger, it really does pain me to say that I think he should bow out gracefully. However, who replaces him? There were no tactics last night, there can’t have been! Why do we insist on a 4-3-3 when sometimes we should look at a 4-5-1 or something else which would allow other players to be involved. Playing Theo amongst the Giants was not working. The fact is, Fabregas was never replaced, therefore no playmaker to carry the ball from midfield and call for it back. A final thought from me. How did Wenger manage to buy some quality players from their respective teams and make them into Arsenal rejects eg. Arshavin – flying for Zenit and Russia playing in the hole. Chamakh – strong centre forward for Bordeaux and Morocco. Gervinho – Flying for Lille and helped them to their first Ligue 1 Trophy in years. Podolski – Played centre forward for Cologne and scored 18 odd goals even though they were relegated. The Ox – played in a Lampard type position and proved against Milan last year that this was indeed his best position. Arteta – played in centre midfield, orchestrating attacks, now deployed as a Defensive Mid. Aaron Ramsey – Central Mid and has since lost his identity as he is switched in every game! If we are confused, why can’t the players be too?
dis is big shame on arsenal’i know b4 dat dey can not win de macth’de only thing i want 2 tel all our fans is dat may every body pray 2 God almighty should not let arsenal enter top4 by de endin of dis season””i know if dey know enter dey wil sign confirm player 4 us.if wenger know dead 4 dat club dat arsenal can not rise up,may al fans pray main dat man died.na dat wenger dey spoil our team..bcoz it is big disgrace 4 me in my area…
SPURS WOULD NOT AV LIED DOWN AND AV THERE TUMMY’S TICKLED BY BYERN THE WAY THE GOONERS DID…BUT THAN AGAIN SPURS AR SUPERIOR IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. WILTSHIRE WAS THE ONLY PLAYER WHO TRIED AND MIGHT BE OFF THIS SUMMER BY DA LOOKS OF IT.
WATCH SPURS AGAINST LYON TONITE TO LEARN HOW ITS DONE BOYS… WENGER HAS LOST THE PLOT AND IS A MIER SHADOW OF HIS FORMAL SELF. LOL!
Why are you writing like a RETARD!?! Oh, hold on. You are a Spud!!
NAH! I AM NOT A RETARD…I AM A PROUD SPURS SUPPORTER WHO IS LUCKY TO WATCH DA BEUTIFUL FOOTBALL WITH BALE AND CO WE PLAY AT DA LANE…UNLIKE DA DROSS U GET AT UR EMIRATES LIBRARY…EVEN DA BYERN FANS WERE OUT SINGING U LOT LASTNITE…LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 7-0 ROUT IN GERMANY ARE WE???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOVE IT!!!!
Slaughtered twice 5- 2 by an inferior team in less than a year ,you must be on drugs,or should be
NAH!WE WILL CRASH U 5-1 WHEN WE PLAY U SOON MY DEAR LOSER!…BEWARE OF DA BEAST CALLED BALE..CANT WAIT HAAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
The troubel is Wenger wants to do everything himself.The defence starting with the gk has been plaguing the gunners the last seven years.Most teams have a very top gk. The gunners have after Lehman Alumunia,Wright,Mannone,Poom,etc.Can these fellas rub shoulders with likes of VDS,Czech,Reina,Friedel, Add to the backs and the centre halves who aint
good enough. Same with the md and attack.The list is endless.
iF THE GUNNERS CAN’T CLINCH 4TH PLACE,HE SHOULD GO SO AS TO ALLOW A NEW GUY AT LEAST TWO YEARS TO GET THE GUNNERS GOING AGAIN. Me thinks if WENGER WERE TO REMAIN THE DECLINE OF aRSENAL COULD BE SPEEDED UP.FANS HAVE NO MORE FAITH IN HIM.
Last night performance was poor, once again, the team made lapses at the start, they were posistive for 7 minutes. Im sure wenger must say to his team as he says in his press conferences that we start too slow. Why isn’t the team listening?
We were neevr gonna win this tie, bayern were excellent but we had them at 2-1 on the ropes. The problem is wengers hsoulders too much of the blame at arsenal for the players failings.
I dont think wenger should leave, he needs a defensive midfielder ( like viera or someone influential) who can make the backbone with wilshere in midlfield. Arteta is good but next season he should be a susbistute or play in a more attacking role.
Defense get rid of vermalen he has bottled it as captain, his attitude to be stuck on the left was poor also. That shows he cares more about his own happyness ratherthan the clubs,
mertersacker should be a sub.
Kosscielny, get him playing regular again, last season he was great, needs run of games.
rosicky – time over, you flopped
I know its hard to believe , but there is a good team in there, the attackn is good, midfield is good , needs a little tweaking,
Defense we need someone like subotic.
sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can start again
lets get on the boards case and ask how can they do this to us and wenger? letting him take the brunt of all the abuse is not fair.
Show some ambition dont hide behind a man who is loyal to the club.
Wenger could and should have left when barca, real wanted him during the years we won trophies and he could have left when the board told him he would have to sell his best players to fund the stadium any other manager would have, even fergie if he was told of the boards plans
When Nick Clegg have to come out in support of Arsene, you know Arsenal is in trouble.
Now it Arsene n Arsenal do not stop buying average players in the future, last night’s defeat would be a lesson not yet learned.
Even the spuds are laughing at us!!!! For fook sake i work in an office with 5 of them.
#WENGEROUT
Leave Wenger alone. if you’re a rational person and a true arsenal fan you would know he would die for the club. I believe in him because he’s the reason I fell in love with this club in the first place
A Wenger should just take a bow and leave than waiting to be shown the exit way.
Yh just like you got smashed 5-0 to real mardrid.Turn it in,your clubs a joke.
True talk.wenger belief only in his failed intelligent that have not work for 8years now.he believes in his idea of profil before trophy and dt failed he.wenger is a poor coach and good manager
GOES TO SHOW HOW GOOD SPURS ARE…WE WENT OVER THERE TO MILAN A FEW SEASONS BACK AND TURNED THEM OVER BUT BARCA COUDENT COPE AT DA SAN SIRO…CANT WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON WHEN WE WILL BE MIXIN IT WITH DA CREME OF EUROPE ONCE AGAIN…BALE AND CO ARE RUBBIN DEM FINGERS!
COME ON U SPUURRRSS!!!!!
According to reports,Wenger said his players were good but had not been rewarded.This is
really amazing. Even some of his pplayers had said they aint good enough. He has to swallow his pride/ego call it what you may.If not Arsenal could be dragged futher down to mediocrity from which they would spend the next five to ten years.
The fm doesn’t want to admit his philosophy is a failure. If he can’t get 4th,he shd go before he is sacked.